Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by kogi » Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:46 am

Here's another thought.

I would consider paying more for a premium connection. Where there is less bandwidth contention.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by dsc68 » Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:17 pm

ForumAdmin wrote:James sent me this link today - times may be changing in the USA which is the most heavily networked real estate on the planet:

http://www.itwire.com/content/view/18568/107/
A very interesting article. The opponents to the scheme seem to be implying that ISPs should be effectively subsidising the content providers. It is interesting to read through the comments in the related articles - those crying foul the hardest are those who are benefiting the most from the current arrangement. For example:
Also: Try sticking to 40GB when you start downloading lets say.. A box set of 4 seasons of your favourite tv-show on Blue-ray!
$800 internet bill anyone?
It is also a good example of how not to market such a plan - as soon as you start using language like 'limit' and 'excess charge' to describe such a plan, people equate that with restrictions and penalties.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by nutsandbolts » Mon Jun 09, 2008 5:08 pm

my 12month contract just finished up last month so im just wondering
can i change from ANYPHONE to INCPHONE without being hit with a new 12 month contract ?

would i need to order it or could it be done under member area ?

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by ForumAdmin » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:16 pm

nutsandbolts wrote:my 12month contract just finished up last month so im just wondering
can i change from ANYPHONE to INCPHONE without being hit with a new 12 month contract ?

would i need to order it or could it be done under member area ?
It's done from the User Facilities.

There's no new contract.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by Affinity » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:22 pm

ForumAdmin wrote:
nutsandbolts wrote:my 12month contract just finished up last month so im just wondering
can i change from ANYPHONE to INCPHONE without being hit with a new 12 month contract ?

would i need to order it or could it be done under member area ?
It's done from the User Facilities.

There's no new contract.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I have an ANYPHONE plan and I cannot see any options in user facilities to change to either of the IncPhone or NonPhone plans.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by Affinity » Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:29 pm

In my case, it may be that the 12 months isn't quite up yet... .27th of June. Will the other move options show then?

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by dsc68 » Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:27 pm

Another article about another US ISP considering usage based pricing

http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/06/ ... es-bi.html

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by raymond » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:30 pm

Affinity wrote:
ForumAdmin wrote:
nutsandbolts wrote:my 12month contract just finished up last month so im just wondering
can i change from ANYPHONE to INCPHONE without being hit with a new 12 month contract ?

would i need to order it or could it be done under member area ?
It's done from the User Facilities.

There's no new contract.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I have an ANYPHONE plan and I cannot see any options in user facilities to change to either of the IncPhone or NonPhone plans.
It is available for change to IncPhone and NonPhone now.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by Affinity » Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:43 pm

raymond wrote:It is available for change to IncPhone and NonPhone now.
Okay, I can see the change now, but it still shows as having a 12 month contract -- is that correct or will it be a zero month contract as FA said above?

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by ForumAdmin » Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:04 pm

kogi wrote:Here's another thought.

I would consider paying more for a premium connection. Where there is less bandwidth contention.
It's sad that you make that point.

We have had far more trouble/probems than we expected in 'controlling' P2P traffic on our parts of the network.

Our intention has always been to have NO contention on any part of the network that we control for HTTP traffic.

We continue to re-build the network moving from the topology that we have used for the past almost four and a half years to the new design which is simpler and deploys more powerful routing and switching as well as considerably more bandwidth in each area of the network. It also is catering for the decentralisation of bandwidth from the Sydney core PoPs to separate links in each State - though that won't be completed until the end of 2008.

Over the 54 months we have been switching customer traffic we have, each month increased the total amount of egress/ingress band width (from 10 mbps to well over 2 gbps today).

We have also almost trebled the 'average bandwidth per customer' over that period.

Hopefully we are reaching the end of the 'teething problems' in the new deployment and the ongoing issues with the P2P controls will come to a successful conclusion.

However there should be no need for a 'premium' service when that is completed.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by ForumAdmin » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:08 pm

A 'payg' plan could look something like this:

1) $15.00 for ADSL2 - no included downloads
2) $$2.00 per gb downloaded
3) Must 'bundle' telephone line at $25.00

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by CoreyPlover » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:51 pm

ForumAdmin wrote:A 'payg' plan could look something like this:

1) $15.00 for ADSL2 - no included downloads
2) $$2.00 per gb downloaded
3) Must 'bundle' telephone line at $25.00
Would a plan such as that one distinguish between peak and off-peak? Or $2/Gb usage flat any time of the day? For non-P2P users (i.e. ignoring the 48Gb off-peak allowance) such a plan would actually be more competitive than the current IncPhone A and IncPhone Z plan.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by ForumAdmin » Tue Jun 10, 2008 9:19 pm

CoreyPlover wrote:
ForumAdmin wrote:A 'payg' plan could look something like this:

1) $15.00 for ADSL2 - no included downloads
2) $$2.00 per gb downloaded
3) Must 'bundle' telephone line at $25.00
Would a plan such as that one distinguish between peak and off-peak? Or $2/Gb usage flat any time of the day? For non-P2P users (i.e. ignoring the 48Gb off-peak allowance) such a plan would actually be more competitive than the current IncPhone A and IncPhone Z plan.
This, theoretical, style of plan would not be aimed at P3P users.

It would be a plan type aimed at the sort of plans that Telstra, and I suspect, Optus will be 'pushing' in the not too distant future.

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by nutsandbolts » Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:53 pm

ForumAdmin wrote:
nutsandbolts wrote:my 12month contract just finished up last month so im just wondering
can i change from ANYPHONE to INCPHONE without being hit with a new 12 month contract ?

would i need to order it or could it be done under member area ?
It's done from the User Facilities.
There's no new contract.
Affinity wrote:
raymond wrote:It is available for change to IncPhone and NonPhone now.
Okay, I can see the change now, but it still shows as having a 12 month contract -- is that correct or will it be a zero month contract as FA said above?
so if i change to INCPHONE from ANYPHONE basically im hit with another 12month contract it seems even though i have finished my current contract :(

also how long does it take to change over ?
also would i have to pay for a full month if done before the end of the month ?

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Re: Possible New ADSL2 Plans For New Financial Year

Post by ForumAdmin » Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:23 pm

There is no new contract.

It takes around 15 days.

You get a credit for unused days on your previous service.

However all these questions don't belong to this thread.

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