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Web Streaming Radio?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:37 pm
by Mr_LeE
Dear Exetel,

I was wondering if it was possible for exetel to offer free mirror access for web streaming radio?

When i was with (the dreaded Pac net) it was offered, but ever since the change to exetel i missed it.

Can it be done?

Thanks in advanced

Mr_LeE

ps. this is the radio stream im requesting.

http://hot108.com/hot108.pls

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 2:35 pm
by 21st100
why do you want a mirror, cant u just access them directly

The URL is after the File#: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Just copy that into Windows Media player (File ---> Open URL)
It plays....

Something i was interested in was converting a (mms://xxxx.asx) stream into a Real media stream so hand held devices can tune in.

Why would exetel provide radios anyway haha???


File1=http://scfire-ntc-aa02.stream.aol.com:80/stream/1071
Title1=HOT 108 JAMZ #1 FOR HIP HOP -- ALL HIP HOP AND R & B - HD)Radio

You have like 20 listings in the playlist and all are different mirrors to the same radio station..

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 3:45 pm
by karLos
how can you mirror content that is by definition a live stream? i don't understand.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:05 pm
by Mr_LeE
karLos wrote:how can you mirror content that is by definition a live stream? i don't understand.
I dont know how they did it, but Pacific Internet offered it fine.

when ever i would listen to the radio station thru the pacnet playlist file it ran fullspeed and was fine.

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:25 pm
by ForumAdmin
Mr_LeE wrote:
karLos wrote:how can you mirror content that is by definition a live stream? i don't understand.
I dont know how they did it, but Pacific Internet offered it fine.

when ever i would listen to the radio station thru the pacnet playlist file it ran fullspeed and was fine.
We are planning to significantly upgrade the mirror facilities over the coming year.

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:15 am
by James D
karLos wrote:how can you mirror content that is by definition a live stream? i don't understand.
Well mirror might not be the right term to use but i will use it in this case for the explanation.

The benefit of adding a stream as a "mirror" is that you are able to deliver the traffic locally to the customers. This means that if say 100 customers are accessing the stream at the same time then there is 100 connections using the bandwidth to get it.

To have a local connection point, you are able to set that connection point to relay the service. so there is only one connection going out into the world to get the stream and 100 people that are connecting, connect to the local point on the network and get full speed all the time.

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 4:14 pm
by Chris T
James D wrote:
Well mirror might not be the right term to use but i will use it in this case for the explanation.

The benefit of adding a stream as a "mirror" is that you are able to deliver the traffic locally to the customers. This means that if say 100 customers are accessing the stream at the same time then there is 100 connections using the bandwidth to get it.

To have a local connection point, you are able to set that connection point to relay the service. so there is only one connection going out into the world to get the stream and 100 people that are connecting, connect to the local point on the network and get full speed all the time.
It sounds like multicast :-) But I guess we are not that lucky.

Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 2:37 pm
by dogwomble
this is actually quite difficult to set up - not so much technically, but administratively. I've investigated a similar thing before when I was investigating various options for broadcasting a TAFE radio station on to the network, with consideration for different points of broadcast (ie. a studio on multiple campuses).

From what I understood of what I found out all those years ago (it was ~3 years) the station broadcasting would need to relay the traffic to ExeTel, who would then relay that to customers. Easy in theory - but you'd normally have to get both ExeTel and the station to set it up. Furthermore, it would be a constant stream running all the time - given the "public perception" among certain users that there are bandwidth issues at certain times of the day, some of them would complain about this bandwidth being taken away from their adult torrents :)