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Re: ADSL2+ on Telstra Exchanges

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:20 pm
by David R
Okay so we have thoroughly covered that it costs ($30.00) to trial(*) this uncertain concept. I'm not thrilled there are no refunds (if your Sync ends up badly or fragile on the crumbling infrastructure) or that 24hrs/7 the data is counted against now two allowances then eventually charged (when clearly the emerging trend is toward unmetered@70AUD), but I remain sympathetic to Exetel's risk profile and need to remain happy.

*For whatever reason, should a long term, uncontracted, Telstra Wholesale member become unhappy with the ADSL2+ result, it should then be a matter of $40.00-$25.00 and likely minimal downtime to "SST" out to an alternative supplier providing ADSL2+ (Telstra) services, Correct??

On that noteI'd remind Wholesale that @ 20.95/mo/"251.40pa" before renting the port, paying the ludicrous monopoly-charged data per mbps they ought to count themselves lucky to be charging that 'fee' for what essentially remains a quick-entry in a data base. (Unless I am mistaken here)

Re: ADSL2+ on Telstra Exchanges

Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:53 pm
by ozkidzez91
David R wrote:Okay so we have thoroughly covered that it costs ($30.00) to trial(*) this uncertain concept. I'm not thrilled there are no refunds (if your Sync ends up badly or fragile on the crumbling infrastructure) or that 24hrs/7 the data is counted against now two allowances then eventually charged (when clearly the emerging trend is toward unmetered@70AUD), but I remain sympathetic to Exetel's risk profile and need to remain happy.
I'm getting sick and tired of people quoting this [censored]. Where the [censored] have you seen someone selling internet THROUGH TELSTRA HARDWARE unlimited, let alone for $70/month? FOR [censored]'S SAKE, IT'S NOT APPLICABLE IF IT'S THROUGH NON-TELSTRA HARDWARE, SO GIVE IT A REST AND STOP COMPLAINING HERE.

I for one am EXTREMELY happy about these new plans. I applied on the 13th and I think it changed to ADSL2+ speeds on the following Monday or Tuesday. Getting great speeds, around 15Mb/s down and 0.64Mb/s up, almost 3 times what I was getting before.

Here's my modem stats:
Line Rate 23262 kbps 886 kbps
Attainable Line Rate 20148 kbps 886 kbps
Noise Margin 1.2 dB 7.6 dB
Line Attenuation 22.5 dB 1.6 dB
Output Power 16.5 dB 12.2 dB

I honestly don't really know how to read the last three lines but it looks good to me! An attainable line rate of 20Mb/s can't be a bad thing :P.

I'm telling anyone I know with no option but Telstra ADSL2+ about the new plans. Also, the fact that we've gone down $15/month and increased our total downloads (albeit with a loss of 6 hours in offpeak) by 120GB is just ridiculously awesome.

As usual, Exetel fight the giants to help us little guys. And in case you were planning on asking, yes Exetel, I will have your babies.

EDIT: omg, just edited 3 times in a row due to typos and spelling errors. FML.

Re: ADSL2+ on Telstra Exchanges

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:54 am
by David R
The message was that wireline broadband is headed in one direction - toward multi-TB type products that effectively are unmetered and support a capped low consumer spend...led by aggressive TPG/AAPT/iiNet for some time now with Primus/pricey-Internode/Dodo & Spin expected to sign on next. So 1TB's won't be rare. But yes, logic dictates TELSTRA would be last to arrive at those player's levels of supply keeness; and this is hopefully where either side of politics' NBN is able to intervene responsibly and replace that backhaul monopoly T$ loves so much.

That's what is really getting the ball rolling in terms of unmetered becoming possible over Telstra hardware. I am personally lower than 100gbytes usage myself, so for me it is much more a matter of getting broadband 'presented the right way'; for my taste, packages ought to be sold as 'a throughput/Mbps available at a set level price'.

It is nice to celebrate 'my modem achieves 20,000 kbps+ throughput' to that end, some people obviously will be in <1 km reach of the Telstra RIM or Exchange port (lucky is all). Majority will expect to see about 10,000-6,000 kbps actual feed in rate to their homes - assuming line quality good; just as I'd suppose there would be rural/regional people out there considering whether their (?3,000 kbps) signal really justifies the 'Elite' cost of this product... which is to suggest there would be many prospective buyers and many whom would be weighing cautiously these benefits up.

The topic typically does hinge around contract, features and cost so my original query went to the 'cost to get out'/transfer SST across ADSL2+ (Telstra) to ADS2+ (Telstra) reseller assuming out of contract. Judging by Exetel's current $40.00 transfer-in charge I'd assume other sellers would be charging around that cost.

Re: ADSL2+ on Telstra Exchanges

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:14 am
by Klaas
ozkidzez91 wrote: Here's my modem stats:
Line Rate 23262 kbps 886 kbps
Attainable Line Rate 20148 kbps 886 kbps
Noise Margin 1.2 dB 7.6 dB
Line Attenuation 22.5 dB 1.6 dB
Output Power 16.5 dB 12.2 dB

I honestly don't really know how to read the last three lines but it looks good to me! An attainable line rate of 20Mb/s can't be a bad thing :P.
IT may be showing an attainable line rate of 20Mb/s (20148 kbps) , but you're actually sync'd at higher than that - 23262 kbps :)

Re: ADSL2+ on Telstra Exchanges

Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:52 am
by ForumAdmin
The thread is so far off topic it has become meaningless.

Thread closed.