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Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:05 am
by xsilver
paulp wrote:Hi,
One thing I am curious about .... I am a PSTN # to VOIP # convert. Does this impact the proposed switchback ? Will my VOIP #, which was my previous PSTN #, remain the same ? Or will it become my PSTN # once again, and I'll get a new VOIP # for my outbound calls ?
If a Naked ADSL2 user such as yourself reverts back to a bundle, a new PSTN(and thus newly generated number) would be assinged. Your VOIP number will remain a VOIP number.
Is it possible for the opposite to happen? voip number becomes ptsn number (which was originally ported from ptsn in the first place)

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:28 am
by paulp
Hi,
Is it possible for the opposite to happen? voip number becomes ptsn number (which was originally ported from ptsn in the first place)
It's possible but the process to convert to a PSTN as oppose to allocating a new one is much longer. You are looking around 5-10 working days

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:49 am
by xsilver
is that of disconnect time or just wait time? and is that both internet and phone disconnect or just phone disconnect?

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:52 am
by vbap
For me, I think it is better to leave it as a VoIP number rather than convert it back to PSTN.
VoIP calling is cheaper, so I would continue to use VoIP as primary service.
If something to my net access happens, I can temporarily divert the calls to the PSTN.

On that note - would the PSTN service be considered an "Exetel" service for the purposes of free Exetel-to-Exetel calls?

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:18 pm
by ForumAdmin
vbap wrote:
On that note - would the PSTN service be considered an "Exetel" service for the purposes of free Exetel-to-Exetel calls?
No - it's a completely different service.

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:41 pm
by paulp
is that of disconnect time or just wait time? and is that both internet and phone disconnect or just phone disconnect?
That is total wait time. You will have full access to your ADSL2 service during this process. Another pair is assigned the phone number and given porting, it means waiting for inter-carriers to do their work before its ultimately handed to our wholesaler

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:13 pm
by rseydler
Sounds like there is a good following for a switch... what now?

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:30 am
by ForumAdmin
We continue to talk with Optus as to how it can be done.

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:51 am
by Ravenous
Suggestions:

ON-25 $45 includes 25/180 GB 25 x VoIP land line calls and 25 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-50 $50 includes 50/180 GB 50 x VoIP land line calls and 50 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-100 $60 inlcudes 100/180 GB 100 x VoIP land line calls and 100 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-200 $80 inlcudes 200/180 GB 200 x VoIP land line calls and 200 mins VoIP mobile calls

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:17 am
by vbap
Without having any knowledge about the Extel-Optus negotiations for transitioning Naked users to Wireline users for "free", one option that seems plausible is that a "free" transition from Naked to Wireline would only be for this [proposed] $60 ADSL2+ Plan with free local, national, Optus mobile calls (see here).

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:47 pm
by ForumAdmin
Ravenous wrote:Suggestions:

ON-25 $45 includes 25/180 GB 25 x VoIP land line calls and 25 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-50 $50 includes 50/180 GB 50 x VoIP land line calls and 50 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-100 $60 inlcudes 100/180 GB 100 x VoIP land line calls and 100 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-200 $80 inlcudes 200/180 GB 200 x VoIP land line calls and 200 mins VoIP mobile calls
We were thinking along the lines of:

1) No charge to reconnect the telephone line (usually $88.00 cost to us that has to be recovered)

2) Free local/STD/CTMOptus

3) Exetel VoIP for other calls

4) $60.00 for unlimited/200 gb/something that no reasonable user would exceed.

Nothing has been agreed yet

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:14 pm
by vbap
ForumAdmin wrote: We were thinking along the lines of:

1) No charge to reconnect the telephone line (usually $88.00 cost to us that has to be recovered)

2) Free local/STD/CTMOptus

3) Exetel VoIP for other calls

4) $60.00 for unlimited/200 gb/something that no reasonable user would exceed.

Nothing has been agreed yet
Hmmm, so I was on the right track. Seems reasonable - I suspect 12 month contract also. Needs further thought.

How would you enforce Exetel VoIP for "other" calls (actually, probably doesn't matter - if user chooses to make those calls with PSTN there is more profit - their choice ).
Can user's VoIP number be sent as the caller ID on the PSTN line?
Would a bundled CAPxx mobile service still provide a discount?

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:24 pm
by CorporateVoIP
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Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:26 pm
by rseydler
ForumAdmin wrote:
Ravenous wrote:Suggestions:

ON-25 $45 includes 25/180 GB 25 x VoIP land line calls and 25 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-50 $50 includes 50/180 GB 50 x VoIP land line calls and 50 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-100 $60 inlcudes 100/180 GB 100 x VoIP land line calls and 100 mins VoIP mobile calls
ON-200 $80 inlcudes 200/180 GB 200 x VoIP land line calls and 200 mins VoIP mobile calls
We were thinking along the lines of:

1) No charge to reconnect the telephone line (usually $88.00 cost to us that has to be recovered)

2) Free local/STD/CTMOptus

3) Exetel VoIP for other calls

4) $60.00 for unlimited/200 gb/something that no reasonable user would exceed.

Nothing has been agreed yet
We would be happy with a plan around the $50 a month mark as that is what we currently pay. Using less than 5GB peak a month paying more doesn't really give us an incentive to switch. Happy to switch to the OTL-A $43.00 50 GB 180 GB plan though as the price point is the same as what we have now. Can live without the free calls bit. If we include a plan switch fee that would reduce the impact of exetel wearing the $88 line reconnect.

Re: Naked users forgotten?

Posted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:59 pm
by vbap
rseydler wrote:Happy to switch to the OTL-A $43.00 50 GB 180 GB plan though as the price point is the same as what we have now. Can live without the free calls bit. If we include a plan switch fee that would reduce the impact of exetel wearing the $88 line reconnect.
You can do this now for $98.
Apportion that fee over a 12 month contract, is $8/month.
So for 12 months, it's the same as paying $51 per month, excluding call costs. I glean from your post you probably spend about $5/month on calls. So that would make it about $56/month.

Or, for an extra $4/month, proposal is for the free calls and 200gb (or some other unreasonable allowance we think we won't likely need!).

I am in the same usage profile as yourself, and the attraction of this option is the backup of a wireline phone. Naked + VoIP is fine when factoring in the savings of not paying for a PSTN line. But now that Naked + Wireline are the same, the only cost is the fee to transfer. That in its own is almost enough to switch back (especially if you have a spouse that complains long and loud if the VoIP "stuff" is not working). But for the proposed $60 plan option, it would be quite hard to resist - even if you don't make use of the extra download allowance or free calls (think of it as a $4 profit contribution - which I certainly hope it will be for Exetel!)