Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

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Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by Musicinbed » Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:21 am

I was just wondering if there is any possibility of some fritz box action round the exetel hood?
FRITZ!box sounds like one of the best modems to date. http://www.fritzbox.eu/en/index.php
It includes every single feature anyone could ever want up to present times.

I think there is an opportunity here for exetel to snap up some extra business. This modem apparently works perfectly with VOIP, and it allows up to 3 DECT phone calls to take place at once.
Exetel could preconfigure these modems perfectly and bundle the price in with a 12/24 month contract. It would probably be too intimidating to charge $299 upfront.

Let us compare to telstra's offerings.
Telstra offer 50GB of broadband for $69.95 when you bundle $20.95 minimum for homeline budget = $90.90 per month.
Exetel could offer the 50GB+180GB over optus for $43, + ($299 modem / 24 months) = $55.45 per month!

And if exetel threw in some free national calls, and maybe even some mobile minutes, then it would start competing with telstra's more premium landline plans.
Exetel could also bundle their $19 (-$10) mobile plan with it too.
You could literally slash a family's phone+internet+mobile bill by over half in one shot.

I think it would be a good idea to have the $60 connection fee, and the $20 modem delivery fee, and all those little things all included within the price split evenly over 24 months (or 12?). It can be intimidating for people to switch to voip with large upfront costs.
And early termination should be $100 (as usual) + remainder of modem cost or something like that, to keep it fair.

The perfect hardware is here, now we just need the perfect exetel plan.

$43 for optus served internet and line rental. (50GB+180GB)
$12.46 for Fritz! box over 24 months
$15 for unlimited national calls (over exetel voip) = 7046
$19 for exetel mobile plan
-$10 discount for exetel mobile plan
+ once off $60 connection, $20 modem delivery,
=
$86.13 per month over 24 months

compared to the $139 telstra bundle (http://go.bigpond.com/bundles/139-dollar-plan/index.jsp) which includes 100GB + line rental + unlimited telstra mobile and national calls.

$139 telstra bundle (internet100GB+homephone+nationalcalls+telstramobilecalls+wifimodem)
$30 for telstra casual mobile plan
-$10 for mobile bundling (minimum $30 plan for discount)
= $159 per month

$86.13
vs
$159

Telstra homeline usually money gouge for mobile calls from landline too, but exetel do not. So if the user usually makes a lot of mobile calls from their landline they could save even more with exetel.

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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by CorporateVoIP » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:02 am

If you know of someone who can supply us with a testing unit, we would be happy to test all manner of the features.

We are looking for just such a product for our Small Business Package (viewtopic.php?f=24&t=37074) and would welcome any feedback on the unit.

However, it would appear Internode have secured exclusive rights, at least for a while - http://fritzbox.com.au/press_release_do ... elease.pdf

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Post by tones » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:12 am

http://www.fritzbox.com.au/contact.php

I am looking at getting on of these when they are released in Australia in the new year. They look to be fantastic.

For me it will replace my ADSL router (Cisco 811), VOIP phone adapter (Linksys SPA3102), print server (An old PC), Wireless router and DECT base station/answering machine.

Plus it looks like I will be able to connect my external HDD to the network and use it as a basic media server.

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Post by jokiin » Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:58 am

CorporateVoIP wrote:If you know of someone who can supply us with a testing unit, we would be happy to test all manner of the features.

We are looking for just such a product for our Small Business Package (viewtopic.php?f=24&t=37074) and would welcome any feedback on the unit.

However, it would appear Internode have secured exclusive rights, at least for a while - http://fritzbox.com.au/press_release_do ... elease.pdf
only exclusive until the end of January, contact PC Range if you are interested in the product also, ask for Raj Menon http://pcrange.com.au/

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Post by CoreyPlover » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:19 am

What is the appeal of this Fritz box? The base models sound exactly like your regular all-in-one VOIP modem / router. Are they cheaper or something?

The FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7270 has some appeal as it seems to have an integrated DECT base station and a USB port for sharing a printer / hard drive, but it all depends on cost because I've seem other voip modems with USB functionality too
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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by jokiin » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:22 am

CoreyPlover wrote:Are they cheaper or something?
quite the opposite

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Post by vbap » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:48 am

I think they are comparable to the top-of-range Billion and Draytek models.

Broadly, the key differentiators (IMO) for the top model appear to be:
DECT base station.
Better user interface.

The thread on Whirlpool has various testers listing more detailed differences, but I think those 2 are the main ones.
I'm not sure if that's enough to convince me to swap out my 7404VNPX - the dect station would be useful (to remove 1 device from my set-up...) and it would be a joy to be able to apply firmware upgrades without "restore to factory settings and re-enter manually".
Will see how it performs in the new year.

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Post by jokiin » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:58 am

vbap wrote:I think they are comparable to the top-of-range Billion and Draytek models.

Broadly, the key differentiators (IMO) for the top model appear to be:
DECT base station.
Better user interface.

The thread on Whirlpool has various testers listing more detailed differences, but I think those 2 are the main ones.
I'm not sure if that's enough to convince me to swap out my 7404VNPX - the dect station would be useful (to remove 1 device from my set-up...) and it would be a joy to be able to apply firmware upgrades without "restore to factory settings and re-enter manually".
Will see how it performs in the new year.
there's also a few iPhone apps for the Fritz which turns the iPhone into an extension for the phone system amongst other things, certainly has some nice features but very pricey, top model is up around $600 with the DECT handsets

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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by tones » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:00 am

CoreyPlover wrote:What is the appeal of this Fritz box? The base models sound exactly like your regular all-in-one VOIP modem / router. Are they cheaper or something?

The FRITZ!Box Fon WLAN 7270 has some appeal as it seems to have an integrated DECT base station and a USB port for sharing a printer / hard drive, but it all depends on cost because I've seem other voip modems with USB functionality too
I am intending to purchase the 7390 model and for me it is not just the USB print server/NAS functionality (2xUSB ports). It is also the media and voice communications features - DECT/PBX/answering machine/Fax support that is all contained in a single device.

You can get set the router up to receive faxes and either send them to your connected printer or forward them to emails. Same with the answering machine, messages can be forwarded to email no matter which account they come in on (any of 10 VOIP accounts or the regular PSTN). You can also set up separate "answering machines" for users and direct messages to different email addresses.

Check out http://www.fritzbox.com.au/spec_sheet/A ... 0%20LR.pdf for full feature list

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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by Dazzled » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:00 am

Apart from the built-in DECT, wouldn't someone be a lot better off with Asterix/Trixbox on an ancient desktop + FXO card, or a cheapish single board computer? Or is the attraction essentially its looks and a lot of functions ready to run straight away?

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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by tones » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:02 am

jokiin wrote: $600 with the DECT handsets
$499 including one handset.

http://www.internode.on.net/products/fr ... _and_more/

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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by vbap » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:19 am

jokiin wrote: there's also a few iPhone apps for the Fritz which turns the iPhone into an extension for the phone system amongst other things, certainly has some nice features but very pricey, top model is up around $600 with the DECT handsets
Hmm, interesting. So I would also have to factor in cost of additional iPhone for the missus when she see's the set-up with mine...! Does the app work on an iPod Touch..?

Also realised I may need to consider new box if the billion won't / can't upgrade to IPv6... or maybe IPv6 is the new Y2K...anyway, off-topic...

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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by jokiin » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:59 am

tones wrote:
jokiin wrote: $600 with the DECT handsets
$499 including one handset.

http://www.internode.on.net/products/fr ... _and_more/
yeah, only 1

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Re: Fritz box?? huge opportunity here..

Post by Dazzled » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:11 pm

Why not do this http://www.toao.net/425-asterisk-on-a-router to a $60-$160 Asus router, and add a phone? Has Exetel ever experimented with such a setup for a small business phone service?

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Post by jokiin » Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:14 pm

Dazzled wrote:Why not do this http://www.toao.net/425-asterisk-on-a-router to a $60-$160 Asus router, and add a phone?
I think the Fritz has appeal for the user that wants something fully featured and just wants it to work without having to fiddle with it

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