Latency increase across the board
Re: Latency increase across the board
maybe so, but a simple restart makes Interleave change to Fast.
So i'm not sure what the idea is for that by the Optus guys or if that is a bug.
I'm trying to write a telnet batch script to resync my connection if it detects Interleave in the modem when I boot my PC. No reason to waste 10ms
So i'm not sure what the idea is for that by the Optus guys or if that is a bug.
I'm trying to write a telnet batch script to resync my connection if it detects Interleave in the modem when I boot my PC. No reason to waste 10ms
Re: Latency increase across the board
Doesn't sound right. Does your modem actually report a Fast Path latency type or are you just going off the latency reduction?terrox wrote:maybe so, but a simple restart makes Interleave change to Fast.
So i'm not sure what the idea is for that by the Optus guys or if that is a bug.
I'm trying to write a telnet batch script to resync my connection if it detects Interleave in the modem when I boot my PC. No reason to waste 10ms
I do something similar to get the best possible latency by adjusting my target snr margin, which seems to effect my interleaving depth (and delay) after I resync. As far as I know it just minimizes the effect of interleaving on latency but it's still very much there.
I'm no DSL expert so I can't really explain the relationship between the values, just found the sweet spot through trial, error and observing the results on my latency. My best ping comes when my DS Interleave Depth is at 32, US at 1, DS Delay reports 6 and US 1.
Re: Latency increase across the board
It reports upstream Latency as Fast and the ms drops by 10. It has never mis-reported the Latency compared to the ms drop. When I use Telnet to check the detailed stats they show up as similar, detailed output here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=1330655
I don't have those Interleave settings via my web interface, maybe it is in CLI. I have a Billion 7402VL.
Rebooting/Resyncing to get different Latency does sound dodgy and sounds like Interleave is still on - but I DO have 10 less ping AND it always says Fast latency, so I think Interleave isn't exactly "forced" on Optus Ports.
I don't have those Interleave settings via my web interface, maybe it is in CLI. I have a Billion 7402VL.
Rebooting/Resyncing to get different Latency does sound dodgy and sounds like Interleave is still on - but I DO have 10 less ping AND it always says Fast latency, so I think Interleave isn't exactly "forced" on Optus Ports.
Re: Latency increase across the board
Sounds like your modem reports an interleaving depth + delay of 1 as Fast Path. It'd still be present on your downstream. But interleaving is forced on optus ports, we've just found a way to minimize its effect.terrox wrote:It reports upstream Latency as Fast and the ms drops by 10. It has never mis-reported the Latency compared to the ms drop. When I use Telnet to check the detailed stats they show up as similar, detailed output here http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... ?t=1330655
I don't have those Interleave settings via my web interface, maybe it is in CLI. I have a Billion 7402VL.
Rebooting/Resyncing to get different Latency does sound dodgy and sounds like Interleave is still on - but I DO have 10 less ping AND it always says Fast latency, so I think Interleave isn't exactly "forced" on Optus Ports.
If it was turned off we'd probably see a further 7-11ms drop from the already tweaked minimum. Anyhoo i'd be happy with my normal 20ms. >_>
Re: Latency increase across the board
Any news on this yet?
This is something I noticed changed some months back, up till then I always received a ping response of 26ms from speedtest.net.
Now I'm up in the high 40's early 50's and tonight I'm getting the following response from Exetel.
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=58
Ping statistics for 220.233.0.9:
Packets: Sent = 117, Received = 117, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 55ms, Average = 51ms
Luckily I'm not seeing to much of an issue on COD on the PS3
BTW I'm on the New Lambton Ex too.
This is something I noticed changed some months back, up till then I always received a ping response of 26ms from speedtest.net.
Now I'm up in the high 40's early 50's and tonight I'm getting the following response from Exetel.
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=52ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=51ms TTL=58
Ping statistics for 220.233.0.9:
Packets: Sent = 117, Received = 117, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 51ms, Maximum = 55ms, Average = 51ms
Luckily I'm not seeing to much of an issue on COD on the PS3

BTW I'm on the New Lambton Ex too.
Re: Latency increase across the board
Thanks for trying Jason, I'm also experiencing around 50-65ms to exetel.com.au via Gosford exchange. I noticed last night my pings to google.com.au were either ~180ms or ~330ms - it seemed to switch between the two and never give me anything in between. Could have been any sort of routing changes happening outside Exetel/Optus tho so I guess only the exetel.com.au pings would be valid.
Re: Latency increase across the board
Try to coordinate with the Internode guys, or mention that their techs have been investigating the same issues.JasonM wrote:No updates yet, just followed up again.
Re: Latency increase across the board
Something happened.. At about 3:40am..
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=58
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=29ms TTL=58
Reply from 203.29.124.141: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=58
Re: Latency increase across the board
Indeed, back to 15ms here:
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=16.0 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=5 ttl=61 time=16.6 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=6 ttl=61 time=16.1 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=7 ttl=61 time=15.9 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=8 ttl=61 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=9 ttl=61 time=15.6 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=10 ttl=61 time=16.3 m
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=4 ttl=61 time=16.0 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=5 ttl=61 time=16.6 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=6 ttl=61 time=16.1 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=7 ttl=61 time=15.9 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=8 ttl=61 time=16.5 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=9 ttl=61 time=15.6 ms
64 bytes from 220.233.0.3: icmp_seq=10 ttl=61 time=16.3 m
Re: Latency increase across the board
Back to normal here aswell
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Hopefully its not just another temporary return to normal
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=58
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=20ms TTL=58
Hopefully its not just another temporary return to normal
Re: Latency increase across the board
No one touch anything!
Re: Latency increase across the board
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=59
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=59
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=59
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=59
itssss baaaaack
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=59
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=45ms TTL=59
Reply from 220.233.0.9: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=59
itssss baaaaack

Re: Latency increase across the board
me too. noticed it a few hours ago but I forgot to post after I rebooted to make sure.
56ms with Interleave latency
47ms with Fast latency
56ms with Interleave latency
47ms with Fast latency
Re: Latency increase across the board
Not here - 15.9ms
vert02 and terrox - you are both on the same Optus DSLAM.
vert02 and terrox - you are both on the same Optus DSLAM.