Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

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Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by ForumAdmin » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:31 pm

…for those of you who think I treat the current Australian prime minister with complete contempt as a lying, insane charlatan my views are obviously shared by other rational people (in this case the Australian’s and Herald Sun's Finance Editors plus the SMH economics editor plus others).

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/bu ... 43,00.html


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/ ... 17,00.html


http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/no-safety ... tml?page=3


http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/other- ... tml?page=2


http://business.theage.com.au/business/ ... tml?page=1


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 64,00.html


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/st ... 50,00.html

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Re: Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by Dazzled » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:57 pm

"Suddenly the chaos of Gough Whitlam's three years looks almost fiscally retentive." Them's astonishingly insulting words. You have to be 55+ to really understand just what he is saying.

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Re: Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by peterh_oz » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:26 am

At least the $43bn NBN isn't all to be spent in a single year. And won't "hit the budget" as such as it will come from the already-existing infrastructure fund. It'll be interesting to see just how much investment they get for it, and what it actually costs the taxpayer. Unlike the other giveaways, though, I think this one is worth every cent, whatever the final cost.

Of course they'll put health and education and even smart-grid power meters (possible smart grid water & gas meters too?) onto it, which will help offset the cost from the monthly ISP fees, so internet users won't be paying for all of it. How much is passed onto the education/health budgets, and the other providers (power etc) will be what governs the final monthly cost.

Also the price of data vs the cost of actual access. $30 per month access would be good, and then whatever data prices the ISPs can get. This, I think, would put it on par with NakedADSL2, allowing for the lack of line rental. Of course VoIP would be standard on the new service.

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Re: Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by ForumAdmin » Sun Apr 12, 2009 8:31 am

Dazzled wrote:"Suddenly the chaos of Gough Whitlam's three years looks almost fiscally retentive." Them's astonishingly insulting words. You have to be 55+ to really understand just what he is saying.
I am over 55.

I remember Whitlam's destruction of Australia in less than three years.

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Re: Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by austdata » Mon Apr 13, 2009 2:36 am

I'm under 55, just, and I remember the Whitlam years quite well. On the way home from work, the DJ announced that, "unemployment had gone up.." I thought, not again - I'll lose my job next - he then added, "by one." I thought, "By one what?!" He then added that Whitlam had been sacked. I yelled out with great relief even though I was sitting in my car. I looked around and it seemed like everyone around me had just heard the same broadcast. There were smiles all-round.

He was one of the biggest tossers this countries political system has ever produced. I was no fan of J Malcolm Fraser, but compared to Whitlam, he was okay.

Bloody brilliant Constitution ours, allowing for the double disillusion of both houses! Great idea, I am all in favour. In fact, I am wondering if it wont happen again. :mrgreen: I still wonder to this day how Parks and co. had the foresight they did to include sacking a government, and all the necessary recovery instructions.

Off topic, I also like how they removed free speech and added the part that forbade inciting hatred and inciting violence. Pity they didn't do the same thing for religion - they did discuss it but decided it would impact badly on the Afghans living here at the time. Long read that constitutional convention record.
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Re: Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by TerryP » Thu Apr 16, 2009 6:44 pm

I don't think it is appropriate to make such biased political comments on this forum, even in this section.

One cannot judge Rudd at this time even without the "Global economic crisis". His government is faced with something that has not been seen for over half a century and he is handling it as best as could be expected.

Rather than childish name calling and quoting biased tripe from what used to be newspapers, perhaps detail your own actual dealings with Mr. Rudd.

I am sorry, but I am disappointed with your attitude.

As for Whitlam, much of what we have today is thanks to his government. It's just as easy to find opinion pro-Whitlam:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/ ... 85097.html

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Re: Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by austdata » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:06 pm

TerryP wrote:As for Whitlam, much of what we have today is thanks to his government. It's just as easy to find opinion pro-Whitlam:
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/11/ ... 85097.html
Oh, for F*** Sake, are you mad or just totally biased??? I have no particular love for the ALP or the other mob, "all tarred with the same brush" is such a brilliant truism. Howard's brother gets a fantastic kick back and Brumby's kid gets off a drink driving charge (and leaving the scene?). They are all the same but Whitlam was an utter failure as a Prime Minister. Totally out of touch and completely useless except at creating mass unemployment and economic downturn. Clearly you were not in Australia and/or of voting age at the time.

Do yourself a favour and research O'Connor and the AG at the time.
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Re: Krudd - Australia's Very Worst Prime Minister

Post by Dazzled » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:19 pm

You have a good point about politics in this forum; it divides, and it probably should stop. I also agree with another part of what you said - much of Whitlam's legacy does live on still - unfortunately. Were you actually there, perhaps trying to raise a family, to see what happened? Whitlam is an outstanding, cultured, educated, intelligent man, yet no other ALP or LPA leader has intentionally misgoverned like that. McCrann's comparison, for those old enough to know, reads as extreme. I made no comment on the present PM. So far as this thread is concerned, Over and Out.

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