Content Filtering Trial

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by CoreyPlover » Sun May 03, 2009 11:21 pm

donkeykong wrote:How do these posts apply to the problems I have noted with my internet connection?
They apply because the filter will not be causing your symptoms.

http://forum.exetel.com.au/viewtopic.ph ... 00#p243700 has some further discussion and http://forum.exetel.com.au/viewtopic.ph ... 29#p244129 has further details which state there was "no measureable impact on any of Exetel's routers"

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by SR » Sun May 03, 2009 11:52 pm

family members report thagt www.myspace.com has been intermittent or no access during the filtering period. Same machines with "3" wireless broadband router (USB) connects. Some issue with exetel service.

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by Niall » Mon May 04, 2009 9:09 am

I have been having an issue since Friday, where I do a google search (for something innocuous such as 'Accommodation in Epping Vic") then click on the some of the first page of results. Intermittently, the page I'm aiming to get, seems to get redirected to something else totally different. If I close IE, then reopen, redo the search, reclick on the same page, it goes through. It doesn't happen every time, about 1 in 3 or 4. At least once, I saw (in the status down the bottom of the page)

I'm using IE7, normal 'google' webpage (not Chrome), AVG antivirus (no viruses found), XP Pro.

Very annoying!!!!

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by ForumAdmin » Mon May 04, 2009 11:38 am

Niall wrote:I have been having an issue since Friday, where I do a google search (for something innocuous such as 'Accommodation in Epping Vic") then click on the some of the first page of results. Intermittently, the page I'm aiming to get, seems to get redirected to something else totally different. If I close IE, then reopen, redo the search, reclick on the same page, it goes through. It doesn't happen every time, about 1 in 3 or 4. At least once, I saw (in the status down the bottom of the page)

I'm using IE7, normal 'google' webpage (not Chrome), AVG antivirus (no viruses found), XP Pro.

Very annoying!!!!
As the trial ended some 24 hours ago then all of these "issues" should have disappeared.

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by ForumAdmin » Mon May 04, 2009 11:39 am

SR wrote:family members report thagt http://www.myspace.com has been intermittent or no access during the filtering period. Same machines with "3" wireless broadband router (USB) connects. Some issue with exetel service.
The trial ended 24 hours ago and therefore any problem you were experiencing that related to the trial would have also disappeared at that time.

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by ForumAdmin » Mon May 04, 2009 11:46 am

ronald wrote:So...
1) do you (as in Exetel) think you're all set for the case that the government filter is introduced via legislation?


2)Or will there be further testing?


Not sure whether to be happy that it all went without too much trouble -

3) though I don't see this small-scale test as conclusive proof that all will scale up just as flawlessly, there's certainly now a dent in the technical arguments against the filtering. Not that the technical argument would be the most important one, but still...
1) We think it illustrates that a customer base of Exetel's size would not be inconvenienced in any way by running a filter that blocks access to Child Pornography sites.

2) No.

3) It isn't "small scale" for either us or any other ISP of a similar or smaller size which is every ISP in Australia except for 10 or so. Having said that we are told that the largest production use of the solution we tested has almost 1,000,000 internet users so that would make the test results apply to ALL ISPs in Australia with the exception of BigPond (unless my understanding of the Australian ISP market is way out of date).

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by Niall » Mon May 04, 2009 11:53 am

ForumAdmin wrote:
Niall wrote:I have been having an issue since Friday, where I do a google search (for something innocuous such as 'Accommodation in Epping Vic") then click on the some of the first page of results. Intermittently, the page I'm aiming to get, seems to get redirected to something else totally different. If I close IE, then reopen, redo the search, reclick on the same page, it goes through. It doesn't happen every time, about 1 in 3 or 4. At least once, I saw (in the status down the bottom of the page)

I'm using IE7, normal 'google' webpage (not Chrome), AVG antivirus (no viruses found), XP Pro.

Very annoying!!!!
As the trial ended some 124 hours ago then all of these "issues" should have disappeared.
I'm assuming that they have (24 hours ago, not 124), however being at work at the moment, I have no way of checking. If those issues have disappeared, then I think the trial should record and address these issues.

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by HyRax » Mon May 04, 2009 3:06 pm

Well, I think the only two issues I observed during the trial week was that overall latency appeared to have increased, ie: the response time between clicking a link or entering an address before the site started appearing. Actual download speed and the general progressive appearance of a given website seemed to be OK.

The second issue, which I can't imagine possibly being caused by the trial, but seemed to coincidentally fall in it, was that grabbing new mail seemed to take considerably longer, and the bulk of my emails are all text-only.
I was going to procrastinate, but I put it off...

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by ronald » Mon May 04, 2009 4:51 pm

Thanks for replying to my questions, ForumAdmin.
ForumAdmin wrote:
ronald wrote: 3) though I don't see this small-scale test as conclusive proof that all will scale up just as flawlessly, there's certainly now a dent in the technical arguments against the filtering. Not that the technical argument would be the most important one, but still...
3) It isn't "small scale" for either us or any other ISP of a similar or smaller size which is every ISP in Australia except for 10 or so. Having said that we are told that the largest production use of the solution we tested has almost 1,000,000 internet users so that would make the test results apply to ALL ISPs in Australia with the exception of BigPond (unless my understanding of the Australian ISP market is way out of date).
Sorry for not being more explicit - I was in a more technical question over in the other "secondary" thread - anyway, with "small scale" I meant to refer to the size of the filtering target/list, rather than that of the customer base. I am not convinced that the impact of growing the list by one or two orders of magnitude can be easily extrapolated from this small one in a linear fashion.

HyRax wrote: The second issue, which I can't imagine possibly being caused by the trial, but seemed to coincidentally fall in it, was that grabbing new mail seemed to take considerably longer, and the bulk of my emails are all text-only.
Funny, I observed the same thing. Wouldn't know how it could be caused by the filtering, and attributed it to "something" at my hosting provider, but fetching mail was noticeably slower than usual for me as well.

Not sure about the latency from here - it wasn't as fast as it gets but there's quite a bit of variation there anyway and I did not do any systematic testing or/and extensive surfing throughout the trial.

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by starbug1 » Mon May 04, 2009 7:16 pm

well ive been geting speed probs or lack of speed

lots of lag in WOW and steam


the gov will never put it up becouse its going to slow the net down 2mutch



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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by deeman82 » Mon May 04, 2009 7:23 pm

We ll i also have had Latency issues in game as i play alot of games online i have been having pings of 500 plus and i dont know if it was the filtering or not.. But mega annoying so i hope this is addressed..

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Re: Content Filtering Trial

Post by NetworkAdmin » Mon May 04, 2009 7:27 pm

I am locking these threads because there are problems reported here that should be posted under other topics.

Posting here will cause solutions/help for whatever is reported to be delayed or at worst overlooked.

Please report any speed, latency, access etc issues under the relevant forum topics.

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